Not prone like in the video. Without adding too much length on to any host firearm, this SiCo suppressor is one of the most maneuverable on our 45 ACP suppressor list. Compare prices for 850016966742 - LWRC SMG-45 45ACP BLK PISTOL SMGP45B8S from all vendors. I admit it. I shoot with a SilencerCo Omega 45K (with Neilsen/Booster) and sight is a Vortex AMG UH1 and it's totally solid at 10 yards, 25 yards, 50 yards, and I've even had some fun hitting 24"x24" steel plates at 200 yards (about a 50% hit rate). This, in conjunction with good effective . Aesthetically speaking that is a good looking firearm! For that price you're retarded to buy that. I found it odd that there was a quiet time between when he got it, had issues and then sold it. Your link has been automatically embedded. I zeroed it last Tuesday and made sure all the issues were resolved and they were. pwrserge says: When you pick it up you can instantly recognize that it just feels ready for work, and that was exactly what I was wanting. This baby eats everything and is now my full time travel companion (sorry mpx-k) totally worth the wait an the price. No range time to proof any of this yet. Or it will group ok and them have 7-9 flyers . My SMG has been back at LWRC for almost 9 weeks..I sent it off for accuracy issues after some extensive testing with a variety of different ammo, including match ammo. I paired with a Holosun 507 series from Midway. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Just read some reviews on the B&T and none were flattering. The right side of the LWRC SMG-45 features a bolt release and bolt catch that mirrors the AR-style one on the left side. Oh well to each their own. Maybe get a good one or a dud hoping Lwrc knows whats causing it and is able to fix it . Fantastic trigger. You will receive a link to create a new password via email. meaning It easy to carry to any indoor range without any ammo limitations, shoots smooth for quick/lunchtime shoots, easy clean/maint. In full auto, the best I could do was 4-5 round bursts. Both mags worked flawlessly, but accuracy at about 20 yards was rubbish. What am I doing wrong? I did get some early jams because I overloaded the mags right out of the package. A .45 Subgun pistol I could SBR down the road. You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. They did indicate it would be using 9mm UMP-pattern magazines as well. Home protection? $ 2,499.00 For sale is a LWRC SMG-45 semi-automatic pistol in .45 ACP. They may have fixed the accuracy issue with the new models. The B&T APC45 is less expensive and we feel better made. 578-28 RH RIFLING: 1:16 RH | 6 Grooves Features: LWRCI SHORT RECOIL DELAYED BLOWBACK SYSTEM LWRCI HIGH PERFORMANCE ALUMINUM AND STEEL CONSTRUCTION LWRCI RAIL PANELS LWRC SMG- 45ACP 25RD 8.5" PISTOL SB TACTICAL FOLDING BRACE Gun #: 913349227 Seller: ThreeNailsArmory GA Sales: 17 $2,835.00 Full Details 4 Image (s) LWRC SMG-45 (SMGPB45B8S) Pistol Gun #: 951319024 Seller: Jays Guns and Accessories GA Sales: 11329 $3,999.99 Full Details More from this Seller 3 Image (s) It's a weird setting, but it's VERY important for accuracy. In the firearms industry often times you get what you pay for, and although the delayed blowback system is more expensive to produce, it keeps you on target and lengthens the firearms life due to lighter parts wear. I have a SIG MPX PCC as one of my bedside firearms. It looks the titties, 100% agree, but IMO anything that's $3k should eat whatever you feed it without bitching. The only thing I didnt really like on the full auto one I got to play with were the separate safety and fire rate controls. There is still a market for it there and they can distinguish themselves a bit. Please let us know what is the part? Pro's obvious quality, low recoil, super accurate, nice trigger, excellent fit and finish. With MY gun and My suppressor, it is evident to me that BOTH the accuracy and feeding are related to the suppressor. and our Found a Kriss Vector in .45 for a third of the price that shot a much tighter group. LWRC says they've resolved the issues and from my testing yesterday, it appears they are correct. Its good to know there are ones that work well out there . Um nope. Designed on our proprietary Short Recoil/Delayed Blowback operating system the new SMG is lightweight - 5.9 lbs and . Well, that and the 5K is just plain cool as hell. By Nice looking pcc/subgun! Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. The oversized frame of the weapon houses its unique patented delayed blowback system that actually directs the recoil back and down instead of directly back towards the shooter. Ill only buy delayed blow back. Full Member. Maybe true on the out side, but NOT on the inside. It has V1 mags and I bought one USA 25rd and one 15rd USA from HKParts as the both HKParts and the LWRC user manual say that's the source for original magazines. At least with a muffler all you get is old guys who tell you its illegal but since they think its illegal they dont want to play with it. map. Had not noticed a problem at all. It shot a shotgun pattern group at close distances. https://youtu.be/BIPCn-aYMoM, I have been waiting four years for this gun, honestly I was afraid it was vaporware. I could go on and on with examples like thatcars, A/V equipment, etc. You running it with a can? I've got a long time relationship with the company, so they take pretty good care of me. Takes range time from my 1911's and other handguns with similar portability and much better accuracy at distance. Just placed a deposit down on one as they looked awesome. If Biden's plan goes through, I'll probably SBR it. They sold the other two online almost instantly. I was really looking forward to buying one soon but now I'm going to have to hold off. Barrel Price $2693.00 In Stock ICA5R5B16 LWRC International LWRC IC-SPR 5.56mm 16 Spiral Fluted Barrel Price $2434.00 In Stock 1 Review I'm extremely excited to hopefully put some rounds through one eventually. Same suppressor works flawlessly on my Sig P220. So, got a surprise shipping email from LWRC this past wednesday. All Rights Reserved. The barrel and bolt travel rearwards together for a short distance before unlocking This is called a recoil operation, Jeremy. The main reason, I gather, APC45 is still a blowback. You can shoot a PCC much faster and more accurately than a pistol. Ambi Selector Switch. My teacher buddy- well he also did that- So at this point, I do not know what Mr. I drooled over these when they were first teased, but $3k? Upload or insert images from URL. Double check the back of the mags. Would be a lot more attractive at 1.5k range. Pretty sweet but lots of issues. Now I have to fight her for it during couple shoots. Update so shortly after I got my SMG-45, I started seeing flyers and accuracy issues (like in the Garand Thumb YouTube review). TRRK TRADING has had a few of these in inventory and sold them all. Ships with 2 25 round US- manufactured UMP magazines with Paddle Style mag release for easy load and mag changes. Dealer Locator to purchase this rifle. You cannot paste images directly. I know its not gonna be some precision shooter but I also dont want to have absolutely terrible groups at 20 yards, Im waiting for mine to be sent back from LWRC was having feeding issues with the v1 mags with or without my sil co osprey With booster even disassembled the can and cleaned and oiled the booster with the same results never got a chance to check accuracy since the first test was so disappointing that I immediately sent it back they claimed they will test with an osprey I hope they test accuracy as well since they now know its a problem SN 15xx. $30.00. Store Price Shipping rate Show more; Prepper Gun Shop. Hopefully you are using the piston booster. Add To Cart. . Hell, it could have been a lengthy internal discussion, it could have been the head of the company likes 45 so much and scoffed at everyone else. In .45interesting choice, but a good one. I LOVE LOVE LOVE this PCC. I much prefer the HK style 4 position safety, but I can see the utility of a gun you can flip from safe directly to burst without the risk of accidentally setting it to semi or dumping a magazine. Yeah I thought they had given up on it. Read up all about the magazine issues here and did another field trial today as well as zeroing my SRO to it. And since it looks heavily AR in its design, I wonder if its going to break trigger pins every 800 rounds like many other 9MM AR platform guns do. Lets not forget that the SMG is modular and as more calibers come out, you can swap. All the bullets went in the same tight group. Im a LWRC. It was rusty and ill-maintained. No reliability or accuracy issues with factory or my reloads. I once again was driving holes in a 1inch group from a standing position at 25 yards. The issues poping up are a bit worrisome but I'm sure LWRC will get it straightened out. Final verdict: Because of its construction, the SilencerCo Omega 45K is a great suppressor for either PCCs or handguns. Got a HK German spring for it. At the very least hide the cash away for the unknown. Suppressed or unsuppressed. The other shot just fine. LWRC. LWRC SMG-45 By DK535, November 12, 2021 in Other Firearms & Non-NFA Reply to this topic Start new topic DK535 Forum Dabbler Members 3 14 posts Trader Feedback 0 0 0 Total Rating 0% Posted November 12, 2021 Does anyone know if the SMG-45 is legal to own in NJ? Realistically, its no different from all the tools who grew up reading too much Soldier of Fortune in the 70s and 80s. I'd pass. Paste as plain text instead, Got mine the other day SN 21##. Within the next few weeks, more will show up at local dealers. It is multicaliber and I'm told there will be a 9mm conversion in the future. Ive made that argument before but Id rather not follow that groove on certain popular game guns I guess and the Vector is one of them. Im sure Im not alone. SMG .45 FEATURES: Fully Ambidextrous lower controls: AR Selector, bolt catch, grip and hammer/trigger allows easy operation for right or left handed shooters Innovative Paddle Style Mag release. Quick View. Designed on our proprietary Short Recoil/Delayed Blowback operating system the new SMG is lightweight - 5.2 lbs and . $10.40. Fellow owners- any updates recently on accuracy or feeding? So Why would anyone buy this instead of a b&t apc45? That indicates LWRC modified the magazine to work with the SMG-45. Cosmohumanist Friends, a major seller in AZ appears to be liquidating 10.5" DIs for a huge discount. But when you can have those 25 rounds hanging off the gun just forward the trigger then youve drastically changed a factor in caliber choice. Meet the first model in the SMG Family - the new LWRCI SMG .45 Pistol. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. Add to that the fact that it uses unobtanium (or $80 retail) UMP mags? Reactions: Voyager1. Probably. Store Price Shipping rate Show more; Out Of Stock. Available in 9mm and 45 ACP, the LWRC SMG pistol has an 8.5-inch cold hammer-forged Chromoly steel barrel, a full-length Picatinny rail, a highly customizable M-LOK mounting system with panels at the 3, 6, and 9 o'clock positions, fully ambidextrous controls, a proprietary Ultra Combat Grip, an SB Tactical Folding Brace, and Magpul MBUS Pro Sights. Evidently MY SMG doesn't like the extra weight of the suppressor on the front end. MAGPUL LWRC 6.8mm 30rd PMAG - Black. ALL of them were having stove pipe issues. The SMG 45 is exhibiting a problem the LWRC knows about, and now the market does too. It has been punished and torture tested in the harshest environment's, to guarantee that it will not fail when you need it most. and they will not be the last. This System is just perfection LWRCI really went all out on the design and functionality. You can post now and register later. A $3K toy that most people couldnt afford to keep fueled. I dunno about Rainbow Six but the original CS made the PSG-1, G3 and Styer Scout popular and MW3/The Division both made the Vector popular along with the Osprey line of suppressors from SiCo. I dont blame them either, 45 ACP is still a popular cartridge, whether you like it or not, and with all these new SMGs there arent any in 45 other than the APC as I recall (unless you count the UMP 45 recreations). (gen 2) If so has the gun be reliable and accurate? All firearms ship from our APPROVED FFL Dealers. by 3dcart Online Store Creator. Developed for the needs of a government contract back in 2015, this submachine gun (SMG) as LWRC calls it only recently came available in a pistol version available for the general public. ago The LWRC SMG-45 is a Warbox Submachine Gun. What does this offer over that? I want, but my usually understanding wife will balk at that price. https://www.lwrci.com/assets/images/5563.jpg, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOxjWxpi5bg. My wife almost beat the fuck out of some skater idiot for pointing an EVO at her last time we were at a gun shop. John 15:13 - "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.". I saw the same video this afternoon as well. Constructed using high performance aluminum and steel materials with premium hard coat anodized nitride nickel boron surface treatments throughout, the SMG .45 is built to last. For the commercial market it will be available in both SBR and SB Tactical pistol-braced pistol forms. Last I was told engineering team is working on solutions. Dont tell me about the top sold of anything. If any of you are looking for quality mags, HKparts just got more German HK UMP 45s magazines in. Way too many problems for the price for my liking. - with improvements , suppressor & optics ready, lightweight & compact with the SB brace. We don't have a bias towards one brand or another but after handling and shooting both guns the B&T was our preference. Sexy AF, but early reports are less than stellar. Quick View. Most of my AR-9 builds use Colt-style mags because I love how that looks over the slanted Glock mags or the banana clips seen on the MP5 or the Ruger 10/22. Are they still making these? Sure. . LWRC SMG 45 25 Round Magazine $72.75 (Save up to 6%) Price $68.39 L04-0061C01 LWRC International LWRC DI CA Compliant Rifle Price $1807.00 In Stock ICDIR5B16CAC LWRC International LWRC IC-A5 556 NATO 16.1 In. LWRC SMG-45 Pistol. Thread starter Dschapp44; Start date Oct 24, 2019; Forums. 9mm Luger guy here so it's a pass for me. Had a small hiccup with the mags at first but lwrc's great reps got it squared away fast! They can be had new retail for as little as $500, which is the cheapest I've ever known them to be in the last 20 years. 600$ or less and lose the AR buffer tube mess and trigger pin snaps. Help Support the site and gain access to the Feed, see fewer ads, and get a new icon under your name showing you're a supporter! What a failure and waste of serious talent. I would suggest buying a UMP conversion if you want this sort of experience and want it to work. Will update when I get my Deadair Wolfman. So I guess the accuracy issue is not the bolt. Never could understand pissing money away on expensive toys that sit on the shelf to be bragged about. GunZoneDeals. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. After a couple of days at the range this is one of my favs right up there with my Tavor X95. Gamers turn into airsofters who turn into practical rifle / 3 gun guys. Single-Part-7938 20 days ago I do as well. I really hope Lwrc acknowledges and fixes the accuracy issues with the smg 45 . After firing almost 1000 rounds, all the mags loosened up. I found a like new used Kriss for $1200. A delayed blowback is a different system. Active rebates (8) Mark 7 Super Savings. LWRCI SMG 45 Specifications Make: LWRC International Model: SMG 45 Action Type: short-recoil-delayed, blowback-operated, semi-automatic, center-fire pistol Chambering: .45 ACP . This gun comes with 4 x 25 round magazines. LWRL04-0056C01. Love the .45 round, the size and weight of the rig. PASS. Report a problem. 2 mags are USA made and 2 mags are German made. Been following it since it was announced. You have entered an incorrect email address! Lots of gouging going on being a new model & current political climate. I have an opportunity to pick up one of these for a smoking deal (around $2500 in trade). Weight: 10.7 oz. SHTF Preparedness. Always. The first one, was one of the first produced and it had some issues with magazine pressure and failures to feed. Not to go too far off topic but Perhaps HK UMP, since they set the Mk. My brother who is an Engineer also fired it- and no issues with zeroing in at 25 yards using a Holosun HS510C sight. Copyright var date = new Date(); document.write(date.getFullYear()); lwrci.com. There are plenty of awesome PCC options on the market at 2/3 1/3 of that. I've had a chance to play with mine a bit and I really like the whole setup. Hi, I bought this weapon about 2 months ago. as much as I like the idea of a PCC in .45 ACP, Im not seeing a reason this would be 3x as much fun as a Scorpion EVO 3 at the range. If I had the opportunity and extra cash Id already own one. Only trade would be a Vudoo sporter style .22 in great shape. Recoil is minimal and similar to well tuned AR, but way less blast. Aug . LWRC SMG45 apparently has major accuracy issues tacarl2808 Jul 28, 2020 1 2 3 Next tacarl2808 Frontiersman 80 0 Jul 28, 2020 #1 Garand Thumb posted a review showing 8 inch groups at 17 yards, while also shooting inch groups with other PCC's at the same distance. Got the zero pretty much on but it was still scattered all over the target. Just talked to LWRC my gun is up for testing this week sometime after being worked on for the feeding issues and I asked if they could also test for accuracy they told me they would test for accuracy and if it didnt pass would I like them to hold onto it for me because as of now there is not a solution apparently engineering is having issues With getting parts shipped or so Im told just thought I would share that info for anyone who has their firearm there with similar issues. I just took mine out today for the third time .multiple shooters .multiple types of ammo .bench rest conditions 10.15 and 25 yards and Im getting 7 inch groups at 25 yards has anyone else had the same problem with this gun? The accuracy and the butt stock being set down slightly are the only things he disliked from the whole package . A non-reciprocating forward charging handle can be swapped from the left to the right side depending on the users preference. Pics/specs/details? Personally, I like it, and personally, I want a 45 SMG, and in a new design. Yea gets worse if you add a can. Basically, think modern .30 Carbine sort of concept with more effective terminal ballistics - 1700-2000 fps but in a compact SMG/PCC that can reach out to a legit 150+ yd w/out much if any holdover and still be a very controllable weapon. FS/FT NEW - RADICAL FIREARMS RF-15 RIFLES AVAILABLE IN 5.56, 300 BLACKOUT, AND 7.62X39 FS Tag Heuer Formula 1 Chronograph (New Updates! Developed for the needs of a government contract back in 2015, this submachine gun (SMG) as LWRC calls it only recently came available in a pistol version available for the general public. The gun is completely ambidextrous out of the box to include the easily reversible charging handle, safety selector, and the paddle mag release similar to ones found on AK platforms. My HK parts mags didn't have the V1 stamp. Follow Our Other Media Pages: @rshgungroup Show more LWRC SMG 45 Overview 4.7K views 1 year ago 9mm vs 45 ACP, WE END THE. gunbroker rgf7018 Burnt Bronze DI w/ Vortex Razer too much color? Perfect truck gun for conceal. Cookie Notice [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Thoughts on LWRC SMG 45? You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. A++++ LWRCI. Its not really my cup of tea but I doubt the price will be that high forever. They scored me one at a great price (why you should always support your local dealers). Specifications: CALIBER: .45 ACP BARREL: 8.5"" Cold Hammer Forged Chromoly Steel Barrel WEIGHT: 5.9 lbs LENGTH: 15.25-26" MUZZLE THREADS: . As far as the value, if it was in 9X19 Id agree with you, but its not. I wouldnt drop that amount of money on one. Ive long been a proponent/advocate that as HK and Kriss did with their MP5/10mm and Kriss's 10mm, companies should take advantage of the fact they're making a shoulder fired weapon.. ie it aint a handgun thats difficult to control and, and should therefore produce SMG/PCC's in hot rounds like 10mm, .45 Super, .460 Rowland, .40 Super, 9x25 Dillon.. heck even 9x23mm and .357 SIG etc options would be sweet. Typical. After the eternal wait to finally get my fingers on it this is one amazing toy! Would have fun owning it if I could afford such an extravagance and all that money to keep it well fed. But GT did find ( 5 ) with the same flaw . Mine runs fine with and without my Obsidian 45. The barrel and bolt travel rearwards together for a short distance before unlocking, which delays the opening of the action and allows the pressure to drop and more of the gas and pressure to exit the muzzle rather than the ejection port.
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