After getting what I believe to be a bad copy of a Ruger American in 308, I am looking to upgrade. Is yours that picky? In fact, I did a whole video showing the limitations of the Ruger American. Franchi Momentum .308 Win Threaded 22" Bbl Htr Gry BA Rifle 41533. Browning X-Bolt vs Tikka T3/x - M*CARBO In regards to the CVA and the Bergara, Im looking at getting one or the other in 7mm Mag. I know you like the CVA Cascade, but there are 2 things very important to know about those! Its a 3-lug design with a decently large extractor and ejector and large locking lugs. Hi Jim love your content I was wondering if you had a chance to fire a Benelli lupo I own one and love it also have a Tikka tac t3x a Daniel Defense delta 5 pro a accuracy International at. this are what i like long range in a good rifle, with hornady ammo. That one is on my radar and Id love to hear your thoughts on it. I am looking at loading with heavier grain bullets such as the Berger 30 cal 215 Hybrid or Berger 7mm 180 or 195 Grain bullets. Went on my first hunt (elk) this October. Jim, The ammo is inexpensive and widely available, the recoil in manageable for most shooters, and the cartridge is unquestionably capable of taking elk cleanly. The deciding factor for me was the trigger, and that 3 of my buddies shoot the Savage. Trigger: 2-4 lbs, adjustable, single stage In our testing, the Weatherby Vanguard shot the most accurately, although the difference between it, the Bergara and the Tikka was so small that I doubt we could call it statistically significant. I have watched your reviews on both, so maybe your opinion on whether itd be worth the additional money To go with the Waypoint. Thanks! Thanks for any input. To be clear, youll load the rifle from the top, pushing one round at a time down and into the internal magazine, and this function allows you to safely and easily unload the Momentum. What would you like to know? Why no ones talk about the sakos in the states?? Just how it shot when the time came. Is the bergara name worth it? All things equal They seem to check a lot of the boxes Im looking in a rifle and seem to have a lot of bang for the buck for a rifle just over $500. I got mine during their initial recall for $199. You dont want fine wood and blued steel in the rain on a hunt. The Tikka Superlite 7RM is my dedicated high country rifle, weighing in at 7.1 lbs scoped. With them being two different price points, Id be interested in your thoughts on spending the extra amount on the waypoint. I want your opinion on there trigger system. Affordable? So happy you out this together as it brings all of your work together and I hope you link to it. Like you I love the idea of the cerakote on it and I think a stiffer stock lends itself to shooters well. Italy has crazy gun control laws, like most of Europe. I load for better, but what would you choose? Hi Jim Im trying to click your links to the guns but its not working. Will be used mostly for white tail and hogs in Texas. My brother and another buddy bought one (223 and 22-250) because mine shot so well and they had similar results. Franchi Momentum .300 Win Mag 24" Black / Hunter Gray 4 Rds 41553. Really enjoy your advice and reviews on guns and equipment, I appreciate your opinions. Great reviews, but nothing on the Browning AB3? Fun to read through this after watching all the vids. Any opinions/guidance would be much appreciated! Thank you. #1. The torque settings have to be exact and should use friction paper in the bottom rings. FRANCHI MOMENTUM ELITE True Price: $ 816.99. The Elite series, added alongside the budget-priced original in 2020, did nothing to diminish those impressions. How Franchi Redesigned the Momentum Elite - The National Interest Vlad is an asshole in general who needs to go away. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Best purchase I ever made. Feeler gauges became shims for my lathe and mill. I have my moments of trigger snobbery, but if I owned a Momentum I wouldnt spend money seeking a trigger upgrade or smithing work. Its for my 3 teenage daughters (all first year deer tag draws) . A junk dull blue finish, it would have costed them too much to put a decent high gloss bluing on it. Christensen Ridgeline So many people have asked me to review one, and I just cant justify spending $2,000 on one because Ive heard so many reports of inconsistent manufacturing quality. It shoots as well as some of my full blown custom rifles I have thousands invested in. I do like the 300wm type power but its been a challenge researching top recommendations. Hey Jim, The stock and barrel is nothing special unless someone could chime in as to why it is different than all the others plastic stocks? So not sure what went wrong with the patriot, and I dont really use the ATR except for friends to use but it is a hell of an accurate rifle. Thanks again and I look forward to future content. Keep up the great work. Iv shot most all Whats your opinion one the tikka t3x upr vs the waypoint 2020? Are you still doing a full review on that caliber? If you want a wood stock, metal parts, and nice bluing, feel free to spend an extra $300 or more on a Ruger Hawkeye or similar. Ive shot it twice and didnt like it either time. Hi Jim. Hi Jim, I love your reviews and think you are the best reviewer I have come across. Review: Franchi Momentum .308 Winchester. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. The only downside I see is the weight at 7 plus pounds if your looking for a ultralight mountain rig. But 300 WinMag doesnt fit in an AR15 and 6.5 Swede doesnt fit in a short action. I\ve been perusing the site trying to find it as my rifle should be here today or tomorrow. I know you get requests for reviews a lot but Id be very interested in hearing your thoughts on the CVA Cascade line of bolt action rifles. Never fired, sold it for 600). Id go with the Sako in that case. The Sig Cross: Amazing design after some early quality control issues. But after that, its likely going to be a custom. Any help deciding? Most of the videos I see you get two shots touching and a flier on the mod 70. Overall, the rifle is kinda heavy so itd be nice to reduce recoil a bit. Every Weatherby Ive ever shot has been exceptionally accurate and well-built. All are captive so you wont lose them. Thanks for the info , it will certainly help those with no interest in spending too much to have a good rifle. The narrow width put my eye behind the scope nicely but also leaves enough fudge factor for owners who will add an aftermarket cheek piece or wrap. Love your videos and reviews thanks a ton. I have fond memories of my Weatherby, but the last few years its spent more time in my gun safe while I pack smaller calibers. Purchased an Sig Cross in 6.5 today. That\s not a total game changert now there are other choices. James I probably wouldnt recommend Fierce Firearms right now. My assumption has been that given the limited rifles and ammos out, the x-bolt with browning ammo would have to work well together right out of the box. Best known for making value-priced shotguns, Franchi may well have taken a leap of faith by entering the highly competitive centrefire market. I really enjoy your reviews and opinions. and My personal favorite elk cartridge is a 7mm Rem Mag. Granted, I got the better tools for measuring how off what they sold is but theres some applications where cheap is better. You mention that you felt the Browning X-Bolt Pro was not a good fit for a heavy recoil gun. You might also consider a more traditional 7 Rem Mag or .30-06. If I were buying a new hunting rifle today and I could drop $2,300, Id pick the Fierce Rogue with a steel action. Moving back-to-front, things start out with a cushy rubber recoil pad. Gun Review: Franchi Momentum Rifle in .308 Win Thanks for the content you put out! Unless you spend 4-5 G on a custom built left handed. Thank you for your time. Would I buy this rifle? He recommended a wildcat round, 7 mm SAW. Ive been a little coy about recommending one specific rifle in this price range because its a tight race. I really love your channel. I found barrel engraved with 6.5 Creedmore and read manual before use The Winchester Model 70 should be the rifle you compare all the others too. My two next rifles will be a Weatherby Mark V and a Sako 85. And although most of my center fires are Deluxe grade, the aforementioned still holds true. I think the rifle is feature rich and might be a real shooter. New for 2021: Franchi Momentum Elite Rifle - YouTube I came over the years to loath short action rifles. Trigger pull is most critical for me. I do have a question that I hope you will address. Keep the good work buddy on your show. Also, I am 62 and getting tired of the recoil my 7mm Rem Mag and .270 has, would the 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5 PRC or 7mm-08 be a good alternative? See also Gluck. Boy, so many good 7 mags. Backfire LLC owns and operates this website. Is it like the other cheap stocks you mentioned I had settled on this for my next rifle based on the Weatherguard coating, price and MOA accuracy guarantee but now it seems we may never see them. Fnanchi is most likely the same design since they share ownership. The Sig Cross has really become one of my favorite guns to shoot. The new Franchi Momentum is darn near an exact copy to the Ruger American. Italian? I am going to use the rifle for mainly whitetail deer hunting in Wisconsin but I occasionally like once every 5-10 years go out west and hunt pronghorn or elk and have recently tried to hunt moose in Alaska. I dont see the stock being much different really. P.S. I am really interested in a waypoint. Performance is really good. Watch my review here. Whats the pros and cons in your opinion? I would love to get your take or even see a review on it. Could you please do a review on the Sauer 100 stainless xta. Love you work and your research is unparalleled. Hard to go wrong with it for online prices often below $400. Mr. Harmer, I really appreciate your reviews on the Sig Cross and Waypoint. Jim, I can not find on your website. Hey Jim, I think your doing an amazing job on bringing us unbiased information all hunting gear not just rifles. The Tikka T3 features a standard box 3 round magazine but certain models come with a 4 round magazine. Bought a new rifle today.a Franchi | Outdoor Board - TigerDroppings Never shot 6.5 but all I hear are good things whats your opinion. A fairly vertical pistol grip offers comfortable control from most any shooting position. I could go for a more grabby grip myself, but the Momentums checkering is certainly sufficient. Hi Jim, Also, at least in my area, they are readily available which is a huge bonus right now. I am not sure, or saying one is better than the other, but that was something that bothered me. MSRP:$609 (about $450 retail). In fact, I frequently find myself out shooting with a Sig Cross even when I have much more expensive guns that I could be choosing. Amway if anyone has one opinions please. i will say that if someone ever makes an after market "classic" stock for it, i'll dump the plastic factory one. People say its the most consistent action, but I only sort of agree. Im looking for ANY rifle with a floor plate, metal, and wood but the only two I find are model 70, and browning. The reason I put the CVA Cascade above the Ruger American is: (1) It has a better action with more reliable feeding, (2) Its stock is more rigid, (3) It doesnt have a super loud safety like the Ruger American, which I found to be tricky to hunt with. Sure, you can have better fit and finish, but it costs more. Great to see honest reviews that are very entertaining hope to see many more. It tames the recoil of this 6.6-pound rifle extremely well. Thanks. Does that make sense from what I\ve mentioned? Required fields are marked *. Fancy for an affordable rifle, the Franchi Momentum sports a one-piece, fluted bolt. Yes, it shipped with a knurled thread protector but I immediately lost it when I slapped my Dead Air Sandman Ti on. I have a Momentum elite varmint in 224 Valkyrie. Franchi lists the Momentum's weight at 6.6 pounds, unloaded and unscoped. Franchi Momentum Rifles on Sale - Buy Now! - SCOPELIST.com To wit: 1. The trouble Im having wracking my brain over is caliber. Its a great rifle for heavier cartridges. Threaded barrel for a brake. I\ve hunted since high school age but always small game/birds. There lies my hole and question to you. A stock upgrade is also an option, Stockys is producing several different carbon fiber drop-in stocks for the Vanguard/Howa rifle line. Savage, Tikka, Browning, Christensen- all offer LH options and should be commended for it. The plasticky stock is Pure junk. I really wanted a 6.5 PRC for my first hunting rifle but with the ammo limitations Im probably going to get a 6.5 Creedmore instead. I think you did a good job in your review of 25 hunting rifles at various price points. Also, since I\d prefer to keep it to one gun I was more interested in buying a semi-custom gun and was thinking about getting the Fierce Carbon Rogue. Know it is not a bolt action rifle, but how does the Henry Long Ranger stack up against these options? In depth and honest Do you still recommend them. Thanks so much, you guys are great! Quality control issues, Im about to send it BACK in for a 2nd time for them to figure out why its damn near impossible to open or close the bolt after a few shots. Im down to the Savage 110 Ultralite and the Christensen Ridgeline. In my mind, there are only two good options in the sub-$500 price point: (1) The CVA Cascade, and (2) The Ruger American and preferably the Predator version. I wanted to get a Bolt Action rifle for hunting and also had always wanted an AR style rifle too. One might think that in this price range, youd have a multitude of choices, but in my opinion, there are really only three hunting rifles Id consider. The data-driven nature of the content is extremely helpful. Id be interested in seeing a review of the q fix. Which leaves Winchester, Weatherby, Tikka/Sako. In your opinion, is the Fierce worth the extra you pay or does the Springfield give you more value for the money you spend. I am looking to spend around $1200, and I am between the Savage ultralite and the Howa carbon kratos. At present time i run Sakos and Blaser. I just dont shoot the Weatherby as well as I used to, and even reloading is expensive enough I dont do much plinking with it. Magazine Comparison: The Browning X-Bolt features a 4 round detachable polymer rotary magazine. Ive fallen in love. My main criteria is staying sub 6 lbs if I can for the rifle only and sub moa guarantee. Hey Jim, Wondering if you have a reason for this Have you reviewed the werkman? Its the classic , its The One , its stood the test of time , its been around longer than the rest and will still be here long after these other rifles have fallen out of fashion. Jim love the reviews and the Channel. Thanks for your thoughts and time! Its way more fun to shoot than the other guns. My 6.5 CM shoots sub MOA groups. Full Details. YOU SHOULD TEST THE SAKO S20 in 6.5 PRC OR THE SAKO BRANDS. Have you had any experience with the new fierce rage? Its like saying 300 Blackout isnt as effective as 300 WinMag. Ergonomics * * * * Mostly hand carried, thick timber and hills in foul weather. Ok I concede your right to a degree but there are tons and tons of older made deer rifles on the market. I would love to hear you critique rifle makers that offer nothing left handed in their main lines. Again not a spot of rust. There is one drawback to the Tikka T3x Lite. Overall, if you forced me to pick a winner in this category, Id probably give it to the Springfield 2020 Waypoint. I would really like one in one of the 7mm flavors. Im in the market for my very first rifle and I have been eying up the Weatherby Vanguard ever since I saw you pick it. The Momentum loved Armscors 168 grain FMJs, though. Their ammo is INSANELY expensive, so I wouldnt invest in a Weatherby chambering. Phil. . Made in Italy? Theres also no shortage of cartridges that send a 6.5mm bullet at much higher velocities than the Swede so I have to assume by your metric those are all superior to the Swede? And I need it in a shorter stock. Hardware: Franchi Momentum Elite Varmint | An Official Journal Of The NRA Jim, any thoughts on the Venture 2 from TC? The action is a Mauser type like Sako. Wondering your opinion on those I understand theyre not hunting rifles I just thought you would enjoy those rigles as I do. If you had a choice between XBolt Pro & Dako finnlight 85 in 300wm what one would you choose. $699.00. Christensen MPR The MPR looks fantastic, but I do feel like its a little bit of lipstick on a pig. Esp in 7mm-08. I figured I could get an AR rifle with Sub MOA accuracy that could maybe hit 2 birds with 1 stone. I didnt see a Bergara in your list. Just a few examples of what is out there on the used market so why in the hell would anyone be dumb enough to buy modern made piece of garbage. I was very impressed at the response I got from John and can tell you Fierce is a company that stands behind their products. enough shoulder for secure mounting. Im a lefty that has to shoot cross over right handed bolts. Really enjoy reading your reviews and opinions! stock not sticky yet? Two of them shoot 270s and one in 25-06. It looks to be right @ the very top of weight class Id like, but with the adjustable stock,shape,look & Carbon Barrel, seems to be right in the wheelhouse of what Id like for my larger caliber (wish they had it in .300 PRC) rifle. Sorry its been so long since I have followed up on this, but didnt want to post on this rifle till I had some time with it and straightened out a problem Ive been having with my scope. Those that do could at least be highlighted. I owned one and sold it. Hi Jim, The sub-$500 version of the CVA Cascade comes with just blued steel. I purchased a Stockys carbon stock for my Vanguard 6.5 PRC Meateater rifle and was able to shoot a suppressed 5 shot group at 100 yards that measured under 1/2 moa. Bergara B14 Hunter? You know, turning ammo into noise kind of use. A hammer fudged junk barrel that was obviously used. Mine shoots 1/2 MOA with handloads, Available in: 6 Creedmoor, 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5 PRC, .308 Win, Available in: 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5 PRC, .308 Win, 300 Win Mag. So small and packable, and Im getting incredible accuracy out of it. It is still a preferred caliber in Scandinavia for big game. Savage 110? The Weatherby Vanguard threaded, Bergara B14, and Howa Carbon Stalker are all models Im researching more to try to come to a definitive decision. I havent seen you review any CZ rifle, any cause un particular? Yes if I were going to Alaska where you can run into damp rainy weather for days on end I would either have my Mauser electrolysis nickle plated (it plates even the inside of a receiver and barrel) or if I wanted to get off cheap take a chance on a modern stainless rifle that probably would freeze up in very cold weather with their speed lock mechanisms which are idiotic in a hunting rifle. Specifications: Franchi Momentum in .308 Caliber: .308 Winchester (available in five other calibers, too) Capacity: 4+1 Barrel Length: 22 inches Twist Rate: 1:11 Overall Length: 42.3 inches Length of Pull: 14 inches (adjustable with spacers) Trigger: 2-4 lbs, adjustable, single stage Weight: 6.6 pounds MSRP: $609 ( about $450 retail) Beater rifles go until they cant. Seems like the bergara barrel profile would be better for larger cartridges. Simply depress the rear of it while sliding the bolt out the back of the receiver. Great Content. Weighs under 6 lbs. Hello Jim, Good read. The build quality was amazing, and shot sub MOA with factory Norma ammo. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. More velocity with the heavier bullets which by the way do not work so well in the 6.5 Creedmore. I can stretch the budget to a Browning if I have to, but the Winchester XPR is more in my price range. Obviously your not going to buy one move on. There are so many other options to consider, but hopefully, that gives you a solid starting place if youre looking for a premium hunting rifle. Store. Two shots were thrown right out of the group and the barrel was not yet even very warm. I\m a big fan of your videos and expertise. Thank you, October 15 2022 Christiansen Arms Traverse, 28 Nos. Thanks, I have looked all over and cant find out much about these. I own a Tikka T3 in .300 WSM and love it as my go-to big game hunting rifle. Its not for me. Thanks and keep up the great content! The Cross is great for 6.5 Creedmoor or 6.5 PRC, but the stock just isnt suitable for heavy recoiling cartridges. Sako has major problems with there stocks , I have owned several finnlight 85s and the stock will get sticky , Its not if its when , Sako will not do anything about this issue , They blame it on det in insect spray , I had one still in the box that got sticky and they didnt have an answer for that , You can read about this issue online its everywhere , Browning took care of this problem when they had this issue , I will never buy another sako for this reason , Do your research before buying one. Yes, even if my hunting situation means most shots will be shorter range, I want a rifle that will reach out and make a 250 or 350 yard shot accurately in case it needs to. Never worried much about how my rifle looked either before or after the hunt. The rifles are accurate, reliable, and built well. No, naturally I forgot to measure and I didnt keep the targets (estimating with the On Target app based on the dimensions of the ammo box, its about 0.45 MOA). My loads averaging 3050 fps with the 162gr eldx. I know I have expediencies it. It might be Franchi just trying to stay ahead of magazine restrictions in some (less free) parts of the world. I am looking for a semi-auto gun for hunting, been looking at the Savage MSR 10 in 6.5 CM and the Smith and Wesson M&P 10 in 6.5 CM (I would really love to see an AR10 in 6.5 PRC). Franchi talks up the ergonomics of the Momentum big time on their website. Im not sure why Bergarra and other premium manufacturers dont do this but Im sure theres a reason. Jim. Actually, I like it a lot. Its typically priced around $950, but for $100 extra dollars over the $850 budget, you get an adjustable mini chassis. The rings came with friction paper. Do you know a lot about rifles. I like the Bergara B-14 ridge. Are you familiar with this cartridge? I reload, so Ive been able to work on the load. My concern is that with your test, the vanguard with a #2 profile barrel threw shot #5 basically everytime. Thanks. Server Time: 2023-01-16 08:20:56 UTC Agreed on the MarkV. Great choice in a gun. Price points on the ammo dont put them too far apart when searching on Ammoseek, usually within 5 bucks a box depending upon brand. Do you have any information on the Howa, or an opinion on which way I should. In the case of the .308 Winchester tested here, its a 22-inch, cold hammer forged barrel with U.S.-standard 5/8-24 threads. I have a Sears gun with an FN Action and a deluxe hand checkered walnut stock (real hand checkering not junk machine cut checkering) in .270 caliber and I paid $300 for it used. Tikka or Franchi - 24hourcampfire Ive seen your comments that fierce rifles have poor fit and finish and that customer service is also poor. The Momentum is Franchi's hunting rifle, introduced by the Italian firm in 2018. Ive been looking at the varment line in a 6.5 cm. Hi 9 Best Hunting Rifles in 2023: I tested 40 rifles to find the best Id like to know how the Sandman suppressor performed. Vald, I love me some harbor freight. I want to buy a new rifle in 30-06. To this day when I pull that out for fun it still shoots tight groups. I did go looking for the reloading equipment you mentioned and more on acquiring lowers ahead of time, yet unable to find. The trigger is heavy, but thats true on the Browning XBolts as well. Fit me like a glove. Is it felt more? XBolt Pro is a good gun but needs a new trigger. They are also slippery when wet and ice cold to touch in winter. Remember the cheap skates that passed up Colt Pythons when they were only $260 bucks and now are 10 times that. Second is the on top the receiver scope mounts are based on Savage Accutrigger not Remington. Surprisingly accurate. The forend felt fat and a bit chunky, and the detachable mag looks like it could get in the way when carrying, hunting, using rests, etc. 1. can be top loaded, Some people get a good one, others get a lemon. I really don\\\t need an other gun, but what is the best 7mm Mag you suggest? It was made for them as a throw back to the Finbear (now Discontinued) Its chambered in 270. The one I tested was in Badlands camo, and is probably the most common edition I see on store shelves. If not the ultralight, whats the best 7 PRC for around $1500? But the biggest difference is that Franchi is hoping to sell rifles, and theyll sell 90, 6.5 Creeds for every 6.555 they sell , quoteBut the biggest difference is that Franchi is hoping to sell rifles, and theyll sell 90, 6.5 Creeds for every 6.555 they sell quote. These are deal breakers. (Great videos by the way!!). Great deal. Would you please review the a CZ 600 Alpha?
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