The spin put on the regeneration programmes of the past have put too much emphasis on bricks and mortar rather than helping people deal with their own problems themselves. However, the local paper still remained hostile, hypocritical, and unhelpful about the whole idea. Our young sister was married in St. Anthony's years later. I guess I drifted away from Govan for some time although I watched it contract as the shipyard industry faded and that was until my interest was aroused as the company I was working for took up new premisis near the Southern General as it was then. We love it here, but still go back to Scotland every other year. Alley & Vine will be ready for outdoor and indoor dining once allowed, but until then, customers can order online or by phone for takeout and curbside pickup. We moved to Cardonald when I was very small but used to go back to Govan all the time and stay with my grannie at 711 Govan Road, above McLarens Newsagents. Click on the Bus route to see step by step directions with maps, line arrival times and updated time schedules. Resolved: Release in which this issue/RFE has been resolved. Loved going into Amy's Cafe after coming out of Mackays for my Easter outfits. Naw, he was told, but we have a wee boy in the back. I now live in Brydekirk village but I'll never forget Govan. 'The. Scots: Gouan; Scottish Gaelic: Baile a' Ghobhainn) is a district, parish, and former burgh now part of south-west City of Glasgow, Scotland. Govan railway station opened on 2 December 1868. USA. Nothing but grateful for my early Govan years. It was regarded at the time as perhaps the worst slum in Britain, and the people who lived there were treated like vermin by the authorities whom we treated likewise. Somewhere, communication had broken down so completely, that while the latter felt powerless to do anything about the situation, the remedies of the former only made the situation worse. Hi, I'm not from Govan though my grandparents, Janet (Nettie) and David Finlayson owned a newsagents in Neptune Street in the 1940s/1950s. Other Sundays maybe Helen and I would visit the graves of our mothers at Cardonald Cemetery (her mother died when she was 5). In Cowie Street, Kinning Park there was a pub at the corner but can't remember what it was called? I was born and brought up in Drumoyne. As a subscriber, you are shown 80% less display advertising when reading our articles. We left Govan when I was two, then lived for five years in Markinch before moving on to Kelty, Cowdenbeath, Armadale, and Rushden down in England. We went this year to the Fairfield shipyard museum which was very interesting. Before leaving the area in 1975, Damer sent in his report on Moorepark to the Housing Manager of the Corporation of Glasgow where he attacked the Corporation for failing to do its job in managing and maintaining both the houses and the environment in Moorepark. I went undercover on the 'Wine Alley' to tackle drug problem It is now an industrial estate. ), the street was a dead end because a school had burnt down. One flat was chosen in Wine Alley and a second across the road in a collection of tower blocks called Iona Court. Has it always been a democratic, progressive authority and, is it so today? Does anyone remember my dad Iain Campbell and mother Margaret Marshall born 1921 and 1922? The evidence they gathered was crucial and the jury was able to see the gang operating on the video footage shown to them. Svisiace strnky. Community service. [31], In 1999, GEC's Marconi Marine division purchased the yard when Kvrner announced its departure from the shipbuilding industry. In fact, the idea was publicly abused in the first of the two SEU documents above. You Wine Alley Govan Team were shite begs. I remember one time, my big brother hiding in the midden under all the ashes, when I went down three stories to empty the fire ashes. Does anyone remember the shop or have a picture of it in the background? Not Now. Vytvori nov et. I lived at 73 Nethan Street, Govan. Sometimes it was hillarious, waiting in the queue to get onto that seat, and having to use The News of The World as toilet paper.wow! "I like to be challenged and Govan did that every day.". This was the catalyst that led local Govanites into despising the peoph of Moorepark, and considering them as different and alien. Moreover, there will be no demolition or destruction of any part of Govans heritage on the contrary the important Iron Age site of Doomster Hill will be marked with grass, and not encroached upon by the new housing while a special corridor will link it with Govan Old Parish Church, which is one of the earliest Christian sites in Britain. Although the scheme had a bad reputation for crime, drinking and violence, as a child I never felt unsafe or deprived in any way and knew only kindness from my family, friends, relatives and neighbours. Reading the posts recognised a few names. Any profits went into the family home and we knew that we would get in return our Saturday matinee money and a sweety. He had a kilt on and a curly walking stick. Reply. I was born 1951 in 57 Nethan St. [32][33] The shipbuilding operations became BAE Systems Marine, which subsequently became part of BVT Surface Fleet, a naval shipbuilding joint venture between BAE Systems and VT Group, which became BAE Systems Surface Ships in 2009. Sources NGR Description Centred NS55416 65081. 7285 Hedgerose Drive, Cumming, GA, 30028 PropertyShark The barbers shop was called "Knop & Joyce" and was at 26 Langlands Road, it opened in 1929 and Harry Knop lived in the next close at 34 Langlands Road. We went back to Govan until we could get passage, and I attended Bellahouston Academy. Providing activities for member children and young people Providing informal and formal training for family members British Aerospace, established by the same act, was privatised in 1981. [20], Traditionally viewed as a lower working-class area, Govan has typically supported the Labour Party, but the Scottish National Party (SNP) has also been strong there. Every month her and neighbours would make tablet, cakes, scones and stuff. No-Go Britain: Where, what, why - The Independent Govan (#646) This is a guide to the history and major genealogical records of Scotland as they pertain to the parishes of Lanarkshire. Therefore, the purpose of this Reflection is to make a contribution to the discussions on community planning and have the thoughts of people who have lived through other The Govan of my parents had gone, the works and the jobs and the people they spoke about had all gone. The Wine Alley is a boutique wine shop specializing in fine wines from the Pacific NW and Around the world! Great times. In its turn, this attitude helped create the malignant tales about people who lived there as being nothing but thieves, layabouts and drunks. It was like growing up in a wasteland! The area was parodied in the BBC sitcom Rab C. Nesbitt, though episodes were usually filmed elsewhere. I was born 23 Elder Street, Govan in 1943. However, people striving to improve their existing environment have limited freedom to act independently. My granny Flora McFadyen was one of the oldest and longest residents in the Wine Alley. Beforesentencing, judge Lord Caplan told Burnside: ''You have been a significant dealer in a dreadful trade and the courts have seen the havoc it causes among young persons. Robert sadly passed away when he was 2 and then my dad James was born in 1960. Moorepark is a small area in the Scottish city of Glasgow. Over the years the Wine Alley had been severely neglected by the council and in the 1980s like a lot of places in Britain people were faced with high unemployment, drug abuse and crime, it continued to get worse and the homes were in such a bad state due to continued council neglect and lack of investment that they were demolished by 1995 and the people scattered to the 4 corners of Govan and beyond.http://www.acumfaegovan.com Within 10 years, Glasgow Corporations repair and maintenance service to the area had declined noticeably because the Corporation was simply not interested. On the 21/6/2005 the plans for the future of Govans Central area were publicly revealed showing that housing and concern for unemployment was high on its agenda. Second, two documents from the Social Exclusion Unit (SEU), which focus on the decline of the urban neighbourhood, argue that the decline almost always starts with a lack of work. Two associated Christian burials are radiocarbon dated to the 5th or 6th centuries, making Govan the earliest known Christian site in the region. Went to Drumoyne primary then Govan High. I was a deckhand on the TSS Shleldhall sewage ship that sailed down the Clyde every day Monday to Friday to the tail of the bank, there we discharged the load then made a circle before heading back up home. The layout suited their operations as there were only two ways in and out - making it easy to spot the police. C/o Jones Lang LaSalle 150 St Vincent Street Glasgow G22 5ND AGENT Jones Lang LaSalle 150 St Vincent Street Glasgow G22 5ND WARD NO (S) 52, Govan COMMUNITY COUNCIL 02_073, Govan CONSERVATION AREA LISTED ADVERTTYPE Bad Neighbour Development PUBLISHED 24 October 2003 SITE AND DESCRIPTION 14 Riverside Changes, 2005, p. 1 Mark Taplin forges ahead with Victor Harbor marina plan | The Mercury Fairfield Shipbuilding and Engineering Company Ltd. 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For instance; my mother was standing on the banks of the Clyde in 1938, when the Queen Mary was launched. Following the five convictions, the man who led the investigation, detective superintendent Joe Jackson, received several letters from grateful Wine Alley residents. My dad gave my a slap for not fighting them, god was only about five years old. Forgotten account? Govan and Fisher, former NBA player and current head coach for the Los Angeles Sparks, got married on Saturday at Cielo Farms in Malibu, California. People lived with the inconsistency in the records. 102m Harley's ice cream parlour . This facilitated the development of shipbuilding as a major industry. :bbpd: Fond memories include falling in the Elder Park pond and breaking my collar bone, trying to do the fish and chips, building gang huts in the air-raid shelters and raking the middens. My Granny, Cassie Donaghey stayed at 9 Orkney Street, Govan where I went at weekends and for holidays (Yeah from Drumchapel). he had come to live in Wine Alley to see for himself why it seemed to be such a horrible place to outsiders. We had 4 Cinemas that we could go to and the swimming baths and all the dykes round the back to jump and all the different games we played outdoors until the street lights went on and Dad shouted out the window it was time to come up the stairs. Skater Girl. I was shown the door and advised to join the cubs, which I did, but I would have enjoyed being the 1st Lifebhoy. My husband also comes from Govan. Another trick was to get a queue lined up outside his house but to serve only half of them and tell the others to come back later. He also had a shop in Govan Road and he lived at 31 (I think) Copland Road, his name was Robert Reid and he had 2 daughters, Jane my mother and her sister Molly who lived for years in Merryland Street before it was pulled down. 100m Freshair Salon . In 1975 the sociologist Sean Damer went to live for six months in Britain's most notorious housing scheme, Moorepark, or as it was known to all The Wine Alley' of Govan in Glasgow. I learned to play tennis in the Elder Park which stood by me for I played the game for the next 60 years wherever I landed. With its bad name, many people from Moorepark could not get jobs while those that could often disguised their addresses and, if they a they moved away because of its bad reputation Gradually, the decrease in services, coupled with, a by now high turnover of tenancie let house, led to the accretion of demoralised families coming into the scheme and all the stories about Moorparks good-for-nothing population seemed to be justified. Life in wine alley I was born in 1950 and brought up in Govan in the Moorepark housing estate or the Wine Alley, as it was commonly known. RM 2E6CW9C - Workers line the street and applaud the hearse carrying former trade union official Jimmy Reid as it is driven past the Govan shipyard in Glasgow, Scotland August 19, 2010. Synopsis Somehow the government cannot understand that external improvements can only benefit any dilapidated area by not only improving its external image but also by giving the local residents a sense of Well-Being. Here in the alley, you will find tasting rooms such as Truth Teller Winery, Baer Winery, Ancestry Cellars, Adam's Bench and the office of Woodinville Wine Country. Impressed by what they had done, the European Community allowed an application for major funds, which matched by the City Council (and oth adherents), to such an extent that another 36 blocks in the estate were rehabililitated in the same fashion as the prototype.8, At this point, some may ask, if the residents of such a community could do so mutch themselves, why is authority necessary for community planning? Most of it has now been demolished to make way for an industrial estate. Regular bus services, mainly operated by McGill's Bus Services and First Glasgow, offer frequent routes to Glasgow City Centre, as well as to numerous locations in Renfrewshire. Jackson had only just taken charge of the CID at Govan, having left his post as head of Strathclyde Polices serious crime squad. Does anyone remember going out the back courts and jumping over them? 102m The Govan Shed . There was a milk depot (Cuthbertson's Dairy) at the bottom of the street where we used to go and if we were lucky they would let us feed the horses, those were the days, how I loved going to the Plaza every Saturday morning to the ABC minors and when it was our birthday we got to go up on the stage and everyone sang to us. Otherwise, unless there is agreement between authority and community, issues like social segregation will never go away unless something is done is because the housing system (and the way it operates) encourages the separation of the rich and the poor. Glasgow Braendam Link is a Company Limited by Guarantee, Registered in Scotland, No. [9] It had also been parodied by the BBC Scotland television comedy series Rab C. Nesbitt, with Wine Alley and the wider Govan area the stated setting for the show, though episodes were seldom filmed there. In 1855, an elaborately carved sandstone sarcophagus was found during digging in the churchyard. Would love to hear if anyone remembers the Wallace family! Govan - Wikipedia Situated south of the River Clyde and part of the former Burgh of Govan, it was colloquially referred to as 'Wine Alley' during the mid-to-late 20th century when a housing scheme with a rough reputation was sited there. Again, as happened in Moorepark in the mid 1970s, selective letting policies resulted in the housing of people who suffered not only from economic deprivation but had many related social problems of drink, drugs, and petty theft. The following year in 1966, the yard was again reorganised as Fairfields and guaranteed by the government in response. [17][18], A prominent feature of the Govan landscape was the Doomster or Moot Hill, which stood near the river, north of the present Govan Cross. These incomers earned the contempt and resentment of some disgruntled local inhabitants, who focused on problems of anti-social behaviour in the estate, which acquired the nickname "Wine Alley". Helen Dunlop and I have kept in touch all these years, she is only one month younger than me and lived across the street, therefore we have known each other all of our lives. I went to St.Constantines Primary School. I was born in Neptune Street, Govan in 1947, my father was Paddy Kelly and my mother Annie, my elder brother was Dick and my younger brother Brian. They were followed there and back by a second surveillance team and the vehicle stopped near Ibrox. Great memories of Summertown Road baths. An isolated island of cheap building land, Glasgow Corporation bought the Moorepark land and in 1934 built the Moorepark Housing Estate, a typical Glasgow rehousing scheme of three-storey grey concrete-block tenements. I would so love to hear from you if you do. I went to St.Anthonys then St.Gerards, great days, I went back in the 70s and hardly recognized anything, even the people were different, if anybody has any info. If there is anyone out there that remembers me please contact me :). Claire Fitzpatrick - I wonder if your Mary is one of our family? Recent studies of the archaeology of Govan Old have revealed the presence of an ancient Christian church. Thus, Damer saw that this decision of loading more of the socially deprived into an existing deprived area, only added to Mooreparks growing problems of joblessness, poverty, depression, drunkenness and crime. I lived my early years in Govan on Vicarfield Street opposite St. Gerard's School where many of my older cousins attended, amongst them the McCurrys. Govan covers a huge part of Glasgow's Southside and is famous the world over for its ship building and football team. I attended Notre Dame School and Jackie told customers this to reassure them of the standard of my handwriting! On 13 July 1577, the teinds of Govan were granted to the University of Glasgow, and the Principal of the University ex officio was appointed minister of the parish. In the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, textile mills and coal mining were important; in the early-nineteenth century, shipbuilding emerged as Govan's principal industry. Govan glasgow street hi-res stock photography and images - Alamy Moorepark was demolished and converted into an industrial estate in the 1990s, along with a nearby contemporary development at Teucharhill which had a similar tough reputation. Jimmy's was our local shop and Ruby's was out local bakery which fed the Fairfield's workers. 122m The Govan Shed . Finally, Darners last thoughts on a solution to Mooreparks spiralling problems were that it could be found in Community Planning. 4 Markus, 1993, p. 161 My gran lived upstairs at 12 Water row. However, there is the potential for tourism development, for example, the planned development of the Govan Old site, which hosts the historically significant stone carvings, has led to the development of the surrounding townscape and new infrastructure. Thus, the major failing of any community planning is its inability to understand this relationship between the community and authority in detail and in an objective manner. If his western city is invariably "smoky" and even hellish in aspect, throughout his poem "Edinburgh" the Scottish capital is glimpsed "high in . The authors would like to thank Glasgow Braendam Link, The Faith in Community (Scotland) Transformation Team, Oxfams UK Poverty Programme, and the Poverty Alliance for suggesting the idea of this project for the worlds Poverty Day on October 17th 2005. The first, Moorepark Grounds, was situated to the north of the mansion from the early 1900s and made way for the housing development;[12] the second (New Moore Park, opened in 1929) was to the south-west of the neighbourhood off Edmiston Drive[12] and had fallen into some disrepair before being replaced by a business park at the turn of the 21st century, with the club moving to new facilities at Shieldhall after some years of uncertainty.[13][14]. I remember a chemist called Brays on Govan Rd. The following year, Fairfields and the other major Clydeside yards (Stephens, Connels, Yarrows and John Browns) were merged to form Upper Clyde Shipbuilders (UCS). I was born in Govan, at home, on Luath Street in 1935. I was so focussed what was in front of me, I never looked behind me and I disappeared over the edge. Around this time heroin dealing was rife in Govan, particularly in an area called Moorepark, which was nicknamed Wine Alley. She had two brothers James (b.1924), Michael (b.1928) Agnes (b.1930) and Kathleen (b.1932). Govan (/ v n / GUV-n; Scottish Gaelic: Baile a' Ghobhainn) is a district, parish, and former burgh now part of south-west City of Glasgow, Scotland.It is situated 2.5 miles (4.0 km) west of Glasgow city centre, on the south bank of the River Clyde, opposite the mouth of the River Kelvin and the district of Partick.Historically it was I cleaned it up and he must have been watching, as he came back out to see if I had done well. contact the editor here. She got married in 1956 to my grandfather Robert. I screamed blue murder, he wanted to pull my pants down, but no way I letting him do that to me. We offer great benefits for wine merchants, hotels and restaurants offering your wines. It was fantastic staying there, 3 family's stayed in each cottage. Teddy boys jumped on little bike and broke it. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title.
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